Any employee, even a pilot, could be enlisted to smuggle a weapon into the secure area to be passed to someone else. Am I not mistaken, but in many other parts of the world, do the pilots and FAs not just simply present to the front of the general security queues? KCM Crewmember definition & requirements: For the purpose of the KCM Program, authorized crewmembers have been defined by the TSA as: Captains or Pilots in Command, First Officers or Co-Pilots, Flight Engineers, Flight Navigators, Flight Attendants and Load Masters for full all-cargo operations. I think the KCM program is complete bullshit. Know what you can pack before arriving at the airport by checking the prohibited items list. Remember, the crew may instead check your carry-on luggage when embarking, so if you carry any electronics that break the MSC drone policy, they may be confiscated until the end of the cruise. Its not just flight attendants fault khaki pants and white sneakers boy. Our world has changed. The KCM program was initially developed by ALPA, FOR PILOTS. All other individuals (to include spouses, dependents, minor children, etc.) Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. This is going to cause As a flight attendant myself I see this as another power grab by the government entity tsa. Its fine. Have a little fun with this!!! However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. Seems crazy to punish the vast majority of people because a few bad apples. Known Crewmember Program Information The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) and NATA Compliance Services (NATACS) is pleased to offer the Known Crewmember Program (KCM ) to certain Part 135 and Part 125 air charter pilots. Having an off duty employee pass rider clogging up lines that they didnt subscribe/pay for is spitting into face of the passengers that do. I have pre check and clear. 53 30 We are talking CLASS ACTION lawsuits for piss-poor treatment of crew. While prohibited and restricted items may sound the same, there is an actual difference - prohibited items must never be sent in the post, while restricted items may be sent in the post, but restrictions will apply. So, what is even closer scrutiny of crew trying to accomplish? However, crewmembers on an extended leave of absence greater than 30 days, to include: disability, Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA), military deployment, voluntary leave of absence, furlough, suspension, termination, retirement, or other leave of absence must be suspended or removed from the KCM system. I have an axe every leg i fly and u wanna screen me for a knife lol U cant be this dumb! Absolutely no verification of credentials or inspection of personal items. - you would really have more "professionals" and those are less likely to abuse the system. SIDA badge holder to carry it into the sterile area then give to the FA for delivery - many SIDA badge holders make less than FAs with easy entry into a position as long as they have a clean-ish background. Stop worrying about pilots in flight, attendants and worry about every other employee. Flight attendants are first responders..they are highly trained professionals.even if some refuse to acknowledge it. Thanks to the A-holes that ruined this for all of us. See more about our ethics policies here. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. Every pilot knows that you have to have a valid airline employee ID and be verified in the TSA computer database to get through KCM, no exceptions. If youve not got anything productive to say, just focus on flying the plane. Also when is the last time you saw a TSA agent screened when going through a checkpoint . (Id really be interested to know what the stats are on that??) Goose step much Herr Pee Brain? Crew members should: participate in their national vaccination programmes recognising that vaccination offers personal protection from infection and can assist in recovery of global connectivity; monitor themselves for fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, loss of taste, or other symptoms of COVID-19 according to . Too bad a few more here can't grasp the insight you just provided for them. Flight attendants should have a probationary period and then allowed in as well. TSAL may provide the same; subject to advance arrangement made known at least 48 hours before departure. Ive also witnessed on more than one occasion a pilot attempt to bring a family member through KCM and then throw a hissy fit when theyre turned away. This entire article was a joke and seemed more demeaning than informative. Crewmembers may not bring pets or pet carriers through the KCM access point. Unfortunately, due to the dubious actions and agendas of a few, here we are. The smuggling will just end up moving to the SIDA badge holders. Crewmembers may not transit the KCM portal with any. Pilots are not more trustworthy than flight attendants and should not be given more special privileges than their fellow crew members. So in reality anyone who come into the airlines as an employee. And no one has said who pays for KCM now but it does cost something to operate and that funding should move to the TSA. Pilots have repeatedly been caught bringing guns. Learn to comprehend what I'm saying. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" This entire article was a joke and seemed more demeaning than informative. However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. Money and Other Monetary Instruments TSA doesn't screen for drugs. I haven't been randomed by TSA, ever! It also has warned that such violations could jeopardize the entire Known Crew Member program. Known Crewmember She was seventy-seven years old. Allowing anyone to bypass security is illogical and needs to stop. Have anyone seen how TSA Employees (as well as LEOs )gain access to the secured sterile areas of any of our nation's airports around the country? Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. Requiring pilots to meet the same filter as a passenger or FA is sillylook what happened at German Wings A320. A large part of the problem was allowing crew members - pilots or flight attendants - to use KCM when off duty with the exception of going immediately taccess o/from their base as a commuter. The vast majority of crew use KCM exactly as they should and are law abiding. The system is such a complete mess, and does nothing for safety. The majority of flight attendants and pilots follow the rules. Battery-powered electronic smoking devices, such as "e-cigarettes, e-cigs, e-cigars, e-pipes, e-hookahs, personal vaporizers, electronic nicotine delivery systems," can be brought as carry-on items only. Basically, cooperate and graduate. And I mean to the VERY front, all the way to the front of the belt. We KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. Never wait more the 10 minutes. Crewmembers can only view their previous 30 days of KCM usage. That would solve the vast majority of the issues. And those are not small. The people being caught with contraband are both flight attendants and pilots. Known Crewmember - MyKCM Login Related Searches. Additionally, many of us fly the airlines as passengers with a ticket to get to/from home or the aircraft. That is exactly what Flight Attendants do-every single day! So easy to tell some of you are not actually pilots because you know nothing about the crew procedures. She'll sometimes get that friend who says, "Hey, can you take my nephew's laptop to the United States to that our friend over there can take it to get repaired/exchanged at the store where he bought it." Ok, back to your BarcaLounger. Should be required to use clear backpacks or purses to pass security/ metal detectors should be used and nothing else should be allowed on premises. Your flight will be delayed while we get screened. So much so, that I usually just go to security line. I love my job and certainly contribute more than just having a pulse. Career term differences may be different in your eyes, but its all in the eye of the beholder & YOU dont determine VALUE or WORTH! Security is fine as long as they make it quick for working crew membersthere isn't a pilot or flight attendant anywhere in the world who would be willing to wake-up 3 to 4 hours early on their already too short layovers. How classist of you to assume that they wouldnt also try smuggling drugs, if not for the money then simply for the power and because they can. The ones at my company who seem to be on a regular basis are the same ones complaining to the union all the time, whining all night long about this that and the other. You cant be responsible enough to be to work on time? At this point just shut it down and make a dedicated TSA precheck line for crew members only to help keep regular lines clear. But there is no common sense in the system. When it was in this form, there were virtually no problems. This story is incorrect. Too much education, and not enough accountability. Carriage of another individual's property through the KCM portal to circumvent screening is prohibited. Just give us a dedicated crew only lane. You don't like your job and you feel so miserable at it. Questions about the specifics of the program should be directed to your airline. @CHRIS , whoa there boyfriend. Should be required to use clear backpacks or purses to pass security/ metal detectors should be used and nothing else should be allowed on premises. Great, making the job even more miserable will help the pilot shortage, You all realize that the ramp agents and TSA making $15-$20 an hour bypass all security and could put a bomb on a plane, but pilots and even flight attendants have to go through screening. The real issue is if you wanted to smuggle something, you would just throw it away if you got random or give it to someone else to try to take it through. (a handful of others choose to use this out-dated screening method from time to time because they STILL consider it to be an accepted method of secondary screening!!!) Thank you for listening to ALL my pain points. If you continue to feel that operational procedures are not being followed correctly, follow the instructions given by the LTSO/STSO and contact to your airline management, for assistance in clarifying the issue. Then quit and go work somewhere else. Again, NOT for drug enforcement. 0000002541 00000 n If they increased the requirements - say you have to have a 2 year degree -- an EMT license, etc. The random serves NO purpose, except harassment UNLESS TSA would escort you directly to screening. The neck tattoo guy isn't. As for their excuse as to why theyre increasing random security checks, its kind of a dumb argument. Q: What should I do if the TSA cannot validate my identity and employment status at the KCM access point? But as federal employees they are obligated by duty and law to report violations of other federal/state laws when it comes to their attention - such as finding illegal narcotics while screening for WEI. I think that the best solution is to permanently revoke the KCM privilege from the offenders. Some categories of people are exempt from the normal security process after identity and background checks (though they are still subject to random checks), such as flight crew, some senior government officials with security details, police officers who are required to fly armed (this isn . I got secondary screening and they did it right there at the crew line (which they do in other countries) they just wipe your hands and suitcase and test it. If the crewmember isnot wearinga uniform, the crewmember must present a KCM barcode card and a non-expired: Aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID or National Air Transport Association ID; and, A valid FAA Flight Attendant Certificate of Proficiency; or. Yes, you generally go to a crew line or the front of the regular line or a separate crew security line, but you Always go the the scanner as does your luggage. Do not go through KCM. The program is not ending. Your password can't be one that you've used previously. Known Crewmember - MyKCM Login Known Crewmember TM The Known Crewmember (KCM) website allows crewmembers to register a barcode to go through security checkpoints seamlessly. Ive definitely noticed an increase in random screenings over the last several months. in order to get funding for another 10 years, whenin fact, they are not. If you really think flying is dangerous because of 9/11 then I would say there are a million other things besides that one and this is an unnecessary power grab by a government agency. And while I'm in line to be scanned throughout the KCM door, they just walk in without ID check. You have a nice day. Carriage of another individuals property through the KCM portal to circumvent screening is prohibited. What are you talking about 3-4 hours waiting? What are you 10 years old kid. The transportation of such items is restricted and governed by the Civil Aviation Regulations. Ive been going through regular security when I arrive at the airport at my home base just to avoid the bother of being sent there anyway. Known Crewmember has been a wonderful privilege. These are limited to 3.4 ounces (100 milliliters) or less per item. H\Ak0:bf0mBmM85ld8.!gv?d}R{>Eee Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. CAP Solo Pilot 4.1.1.1. Can't buy restricted items? - The Outer Worlds: General Discussion (NO Agree that the problem stems from flight attendants being able to use this as well as pilots. Today's airline management and unions only care that the males can wear the female uniforms, makeup, tattoos, or fingernail polish, because it keeps the "price down". Worrying about wait times and passenger volume is what our management is for. In my opinion and observations, many of the violations that have As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. 0000003664 00000 n TSA has implemented a standardized response from the agency for KCM suspensions and removals rather than relying on agency field operations to implement such measures. Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). If the pilots on a flight become incapacitated, the lives of everyone on board are jeopardized; if the flight attendants become incapacitated, it is a Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. I guess it's impossible for them to smuggle something, even though that's NOT what it's for. Will you diffuse the bomb and save the day? And since you're so hung up on logistics, you should be able to comprehend that people in positions of need will more likely risk activities such as drug smuggling. There have been reports of pilots caught with weapons when they get randomed. The "Flight Attendants" column denotes airlines whose Flight Attendants are eligible to participate in the KCM program. Maybe the airlines should consider Spandex! Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. Known Crew Members (KCM) Lanes KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of crew members. Hold your fellow flight attendants responsible for their actions. Oh youre mad because the flight attendants never treat you right. Meanwhile I have to show my employer issued ID, plus scan a TSA issued barcode identifying me and a 2nd Government issued picture ID (a 3rd ID not in uniform). Seemingly every airline is telling you to arrive 2-3 hours ahead of time because you never know how many TSA employees showed up that day. If you make it through quickly, then suddenly you have to kill 2 hours in a lounge. The Known Crewmember program (often abbreviated KCM) allows select airline pilots and flight attendants to enter the sterile area of the airport without going through the standard security screening process. So, according to you, FAs need to go through security because of prohibited items and drugs. I have PreCheck and Ive waited at least 30 minutes several times between April and October this year. They are dropped off @ the secure side of the terminal. I stopped using it entirely for about 2 months now. "TSA PRE-CHECK" line where most do not have to remove their shoes or take laptops out of bags - yay. "Strip searched" When you fabricate, you lose all credibility. Are you worried that they might find the child porn that you regularly travel with now that you'll be going through security more often? Crewmembers can utilize the KCM access points for both business and personal use. Pilots have years and $100,000 plus dollars invested in this career. I'm a 44 year flight attendant. Things do NOT get fixed until the agency in question is FORCED into a state of change. That, and the fact that pilots or flight attendants could threaten the safety of the flight, makes crewmembers unique. metagenics pyramid schemehow much was $50 cents worth in 1930. long haul trucking companies; blocks of bird breeding cages. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. 0000006114 00000 n Protect KCM - Compliance with the TSA Prohibited Items List On the other, my spouse is a F/A for Southwest. Procedures of Passenger Clearance : Japan Customs Which is handing out band-aids and pressing buttons on an AED.after the machine TELLS you to. HVO@_qIgr&mU%x Jii7l%S~/-iL@+$gh^OFA^ ,=`no~e)b(RJHKiyW:VNXGtZF E`kpn3SkO{ QzW-aIXeAINd~#n"xOZe{u^{OF&kkZ Make sure you generate as many passenger complaints as you can!! In some instances, generally involving prohibited items, the TSA is authorized by federal regulation to use a streamlined procedure and no LOI will be issued. 0000007057 00000 n The majority of flight attendants and pilots follow the rules. First, crew members appreciate having a KCM check point. Fine tuning of the program are very much in need but not just to our end, theirs (Government Screeners) too. While I am an airline pilot, I fly for a major cargo airline and thankfully dont have to deal with the incompetent TSA smurfs. Can we talk about the Facebook group of Pilot Wives saying that their husbands bring their food and drinks and even wine in coffee tumblers? If you combine all the flight attendants and look at the numbers is it even close to 1% of crew members doing this? Upon returning to work, it is recommended that the crewmember contact their airline management or crew records department to see if your KCM file has been reactivated. KCM Rules for Use, effective November 21, 2022 - KNOWN CREWMEMBER You're about as much of a "first responder" as the senior citizen who greets people at Walmart. They are "consensual" in name only, and that bending of the usual prohibition of unwarranted search is justified only because their primary purpose is to stop terrorists from taking weapons onto planes. Waiters, food services and others, including TSA workers who make minimum wage and have a thankless job, not so much. H\n@E|E/E*Hc'IFvb@m/7HdsSnv&vgs.x 7$/L)Icvy7M;fxI:dn&_0VLot){u~?b'&o:L;v25pIcex?tw I],GpE%og9.Z,Y?"[Z\Kr dfEZvg_}Yee_}Yec_}999999999998s9A0G#s9=(xdYsY8sA8sA8sPAW+ To view KCM security checkpoint lanes at DFW, please visit the Known Crewmember website. governments around the world, including in the US, are doing more surveillance of their own citizens - let alone others from other countries. Questions about the specifics of the program should be directed to your airline. Once you arrive at the boarding gate and your pass has not been properly marked by the TSA, you will be sent back to the passenger screening checkpoint for proper screening. Once you receive the barcode card, follow the instructions on the back to register it into the KCM system. Also keep in mind that when returning to active status there will be a delay in updating your status to active which may result in your inability to use KCM access. Restricted and Prohibited goods | Air Mauritius I would love to see the upcoming changes on the program since I'm currently a flight attendant. Are not allowed to carry property belonging to other individuals through the KCM Access Point. USA Customs Clearance - Restricted and Prohibited Items for Import - Janio Duties and Responsibilities of Cabin Crew Thank you to the wonderful TSA for wasting everyones time and making the lives of hard working crew members harder while decreasing safety at the same time. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. Flight attendants have 2 months of training. We should not take a step backward. All airline employees are subject to TSA screening practices conducted within sterile areas, which include roving screening teams, random gate screening and questioning by TSA officers. Pilots have years and $100,000 plus dollars invested in this career. all while putting up with ATTITUDES & MINDSETS from people like you! Crewmembers are subject to a federal background check and fingerprinting as a result of 9/11. 2023 KNOWN CREWMEMBER. Maybe you should check YOUR attitude! I've always been concerned they let them into known crewmember from day one. That has never happened at any US domestic airport. Yeah - I have been strip searched after a hand swipe - just because I made the mistake of applying a hand moisturizer prior to going through screening.). Not one employee for any airline or airport goes through security. The Department of Homeland Security and the White House also have given their approval for KCM. endstream endobj 81 0 obj <>/Size 53/Type/XRef>>stream Security is an illusion there is no reason to subject those flying the airplane to TSA checks. TSA has determined that certain violations of TSA security requirements by a crewmember are inconsistent with a determination that the crewmember poses a sufficiently low risk to transportation security to be eligible for KCM expedited screening, regardless of whether the violation physically occurred at the KCM access point. Crew Member job description - Workable Sadly people will always try and take advantage of a situation. In the meantime, random screenings through the program will continue to increase, to minimize the number of prohibited items being brought through security. Aircrew - Wikipedia Im not very worried about KCM going bye bye. The TSO will match the identification to the crewmembers appearance and confirm the crewmembers identity and current employment status via the KCM system. Flight attendants (mostly female) live out of their suitcases for several days at a time and wouldn't be feasible to check their bags just for health and beauty products (make-up, shampoo, etc), not counting the amount of food that FA's are allowed to pack in their travel cooler (again, several days of food are packed in those coolers) FA's are background checked and it's My concern for flight attendants would be the TSA liquid limits. Visit the Consumer Product Safety Commission's website for more information on what items might be subject to a recall. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand these KCM Rules for Use and comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. IATA - Personalised Passport, Visa & Health travel documentation advice board the aircraft. When flights get delayed or passengers miss their flights because the TSA already cant keep up with their normal shit. Ban the ones who broke the rules. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to that crewmember, or it might involve a miscommunication with the crewmembers airline database. Just a couple of weeks ago I posed the question of whether the Known Crewmember Program should be reconsidered. "A half a block" really? However, keep in mind it is not just F/A's who have been known to smuggle items or take advantage of the benefit.